Harvey v Legora Predictions
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Who does everyone think wins? The first mover, fast follower and/or a third unknown company?
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- 109↑u/JediMasterRedditAnthropic.
- 51↑u/bvc900Neither, the thin veil of being an AI wrapper will come off soon. Whatever you can do in Harvey/Legora, you can do in a frontier model. The winners, ironically, will be the dinosaur companies: legal data owners (TR, LN, vLex). I actually think system of records will prevail too, think CLMs, case management, matter management, entity management. The reason being is that it is unlikely the frontier models will move into this space. A lot of vendors will need to drastically change to become MCP friendly where the front end is the frontier model (you use Claude for example to query your contracts), but Anthropic/OpenAI etc will unlikely ever become a database. Does the existing market in this area stay as it is, probably not, why would you spend $300k+ on clunky iCertis. Newer players will start to emerge.
- 12↑u/i_had_an_apostropheThey’re still just wrappers. Zero moat.
- 12↑u/Ordinary_Musician_76Neither, both are extremely basic.
- 7↑u/Feisty-Ad-5420Not sure there is going to be a single winner. It's not like there's been a single CLM or CMS winner and those have been around for many many more years.
- 6↑u/ajax81We have both + anthropic. Claude is the only thing anyone uses any more. But Imo the only differentiated chatbot in the space now is Mikeoss because It is free, and in a few weeks will have complete feature parity with Harvey and Legora. Will it be as smooth? No. Will it be “good enough”? 100% yes. The establishment will say things like security and governance. But the more savvy CTO/CIO/CAIO’s know you can set it up on a VM in your existing infrastructure and be just fine. I promise you that is already happening, they just aren’t talking about it yet. Nobody wants to be first. But it’s coming.